Bonus link: January 2003 Vonnegut
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Transcript of Cross Afire #5: Donald Rumsfeld Discovers Catch 22
Pat Buchanan: Tonight on Cross Afire: US Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld
takes your phone calls on Iraq! Are you pimping a book today, sir?
Donald Rumsfeld: It's just some light reading.
Jerry Falwell: You are a true man of the people! Our first caller: Amy from Minneapolis!
Amy: If Iraq hasn't invaded anybody in 12 years, why are they such a danger to us now?
Rumsfeld: It's the calm before the storm, Amy! Iraq's silence, combined
with its 12-year track record of not stepping over its borders and killing
anyone, is exactly what makes them so dangerous!
Jerry: Silence equals guilt!
Amy: So if Iraq had been pillaging its neighbors over the past 12 years, they'd be less dangerous?
Rumsfeld: Of course! But we'd still invade to protect Iraq's neighbors!
Pat: Our next caller is Tariq from Baghdad. Hi, Tariq!
Tariq: Please don't kill me.
Jerry: That's not even a question! Who's screening these calls?
Rumsfeld: Tariq, just stay clear of buildings, large groups of people, and open spaces. You'll be fine!
Tariq: I don't want to die.
Rumsfeld: I can't promise that you won't die, Tariq. But I do promise that if you don't die, you will be free!
Pat: Death will make you free, Tariq!
Jerry: Death equals freedom!
Pat: Bishop to E6.
Jerry: Next up: Robert from Seattle!
Robert: If inspectors find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, then we bomb them, right?
Rumsfeld: Of course.
Robert: But if inspectors fail to find such weapons?
Rumsfeld: Then it proves they are masters of hiding! We bomb them anyway!
Pat: Next caller: Joseph Heller from New York!
Jerry: Isn't he dead?
Rumsfeld: Before you speak, Mr Heller, I want to thank you on behalf of the Bush administration for your book, Catch 22. It's been... inspirational.
Joseph Heller: I demand you stop using my novel as an instruction manual!
Rumsfeld: I want you to know Dick Cheney considers Milo Minderbinder his personal hero.
Heller: You give democracy a black eye, Rumsfeld!
Rumsfeld, on the red phone: Hello, Homeland Security? Predator drone airstrike on the anti-American novelist, please. Zip his diddle.
Pat: How can you know his location?
Rumsfeld: All cell phones have 911 locators for safety. Safety! Ha!
Boom. Much blood.
Rumsfeld: So it goes.
Jerry: Most brutal, sir. Next up: Kurt Vonnegut from New York.
Kurt Vonnegut: Don't quote my work, you bastard! Go take a flying fuck at the moooooooon!
Rumsfeld, on red phone: Tactical nuke, please. Bust his bunker.
Nuclear boom.
Rumsfeld: Poo-tee-weet, Vonnegut. Poo. Tee. Weet.
CNN anchor: New York City is under attack! President Bush has declared Saddam Hussein responsible and has vowed "total nukular destruction" of all non-oilfield areas in Iraq. God bless America! Over to Cross Afire for expert analysis:
Rumsfeld: See the cat? See the cradle?
Pat: Join us again for more Cross Afire!
Jerry: Wave your flags!
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